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One of my english exams
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Alteffyou | Date: Monday, 2009-07-20, 10:26 AM | Message # 1 |
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| Ok this is the story behind the entire exam, I have to explain in detail all the issues in this artical, I'd like your feedback as this is a class decussion, I've already passed this exam as i've pointed out all the relevent issues but i'd like to see your feedback anyways, Feel free to go into detail as i've done 32 pages of documentation on this already. Here is the story Added (2009-07-20, 10:14 Am) --------------------------------------------- I can't remember how i got my first job in sydney, but it was with a family. I was what they called live-in housekeeper. They were very rich and they had one boy and a girl. My job was to look after the kids and clean the house. The house was big upstairs and down. my room was downstairs. I worked five days a week; sometimes would get the weekend off, But most of the time they would have people come over for dinner. Added (2009-07-20, 10:15 Am) --------------------------------------------- At first i liked it. They seemed to care about me. He used to go to work everyday. He owned a clothes factory and they also owned a chemist shop. They would pay me twenty-fice pounds a week, and put twenty pounds in a bank account they started for me. They gave me new clothes and whenever i went to the chemist shop they charged me half price. Added (2009-07-20, 10:17 Am) --------------------------------------------- Things started getting real bad after a year. Little things started going missing in then house and they lady worked for would say." I have lost my ring. It was in my jewellery box." A week would go by, Then she would be wearing it. Other times she would leave her diamond necklace on the bed. I think she wanted me to take it. I'm sure of that now. Added (2009-07-20, 10:18 Am) --------------------------------------------- There children got to me. Sme days they woud go into the kitchen and get the flour out of the cupboard and put it all through the house and make a big mess. They would say, "You'd better clean up before mum comes home and she will sack you." They were so spoilt. If tye wanted anything they would get it. Sometimes i felt like wringing their necks. Added (2009-07-20, 10:20 Am) --------------------------------------------- I finally gave my notice. That was when all hell broke loose. She started saying how she took me in off the street, an Aborigine and all. She said, "Don't worry about giving your notice, just get out now." i asked if i could get my bank book. It was all i had. She had banked every week and i'm sure if i was there more then a year. She said, "You are not getting any money from us. You have been stealing things from this house for quite awhile." I started to cry, "I have never taken anything from this house." Added (2009-07-20, 10:26 Am) --------------------------------------------- "if you don't leave now i will ring the police and tell them what you have been doing while you have been living here. You Aborigines are all alike - good for nothing," she said. I left that night with only the clothes on my bank and i never went back there ever again. Jane Fernado Smith Post feedback if you think this is a racial attack or just a coincidence. I'll post my report on thursday that's when this is due in. Then i'll tell you the results friday afternoon 
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Guinevere | Date: Monday, 2009-07-20, 10:44 AM | Message # 2 |
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| In my opinion, stereotypes are often the biggest issue between races. We stereotype what a group of people are like, how they dress or act, based off of either assumptions, rumors, other peoples’ experience or your own personal experience with a small percentage of the stereotyped group. Sometimes, they can be proven “true” but this is still a false statement because even if one single person follows through with the stereotype, that doesn’t mean ALL of them do it. To say that all women have babies is false, because they don’t. But if you see one woman who is pregnant, or ten women, you just assume the stereotype is correct because “you’ve seen it yourself”. It still does not hold true to the entire group and what “you’ve seen” is very little of the group you’re discussing. However people want to categorize things and often want stereotypes to come true. In a situation like this, it is evident they already had a prejudice against Aborigines but decided it hire her anyway. For that year, things were fine. After it, something changed within the family that (obviously) the woman did not know about. Whether it was marital issues, financial or something as simple as a friend of theirs had a bad experience with an aborigine. Social influence can be very persuasive (aka “I can’t believe you would let one of them in your house” can make a huge impact, even if it’s just one person’s opinion). If the woman had not said that at the end – had she not labeled the woman an aborigine and simply told her she stole and to get out – I wouldn’t think twice. But she did. She went out of her way to mark the girl and confirm this stereotype for some sort of reason. It also means the woman was thinking about the difference between them for a long time. If you had a maid who was a minority and you didn’t care, why would you bring it up during an argument? The change in behavior might not have initially been racial, but it quickly turned to that. So, my vote is both. The strife within the family was coincidental, but they made it about race in the end.
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Alteffyou | Date: Monday, 2009-07-20, 9:22 PM | Message # 3 |
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| I was removed from the class because i defended the family saying there wasn't enough evadence in the artical provided for me to judge it as a racial event, There is really only 1 comment to take on in this artical and the rest is open. I noticed people went for the conclusion it was a racial attack very early right after they had a light read on the artical, I don't know if it's human nature to automatically assume it's racial because we are reading one side of the story. I really enjoyed this artical btw
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Guinevere | Date: Monday, 2009-07-20, 10:46 PM | Message # 4 |
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| You were removed? HAHA, that's amazing. Most people will automatically assume racial attack because it's easier and it's (often) what people want to hear. However, the woman made a point to point out her race, which mean the family is not 100% innocent. But I do agree with you -- there isn't much evidence to support either conclusion.
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Alteffyou | Date: Tuesday, 2009-07-21, 10:52 AM | Message # 5 |
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| i'm excited to hand in my paper, i'll be the only person who defended the family
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Patrick | Date: Tuesday, 2009-07-21, 2:49 PM | Message # 6 |
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| Quote (Guinevere) In my opinion... I disagree. Yes, stereotypes are a big issue among races, but aren't we stereotyping what a race is? What is an American? Oh, some stereotype it as Caucasian people or maybe people that wear red, white, and blue. We're even stereotyping what a "Caucasian" is. Why do we do this? To make everything simpler in this complex world of ours. Why would you want to say that Americans are people that wear red,white, and blue; Caucasian people; or people that live in a "first world country"? Nobody would do this, they would just stereotype it to the point that Americans are people that live in the United States. The point that I'm trying to make is that in this story by Smith, the family that hired the Aborigine was always stereotypical and racist to the speaker of the story. Why do you think they even hired the Aborigine even though they were a "rich" family so to speak? Most likely because he/she was cheap or easy to find. This is a stereotype already. I'm sure there was an Aborigine that was rich, but why would the family want to bother thinking that. It's way easier to generalize something as one thing for everyone to acknowledge. You would probably go on saying why did the family treated the speaker so nicely? They probably did because they wanted to actually help him, they wanted to trust him and to see that he was a "good" housekeeper, but they always had their doubts back in their mind. They were always stereotypes, but just not to the potential that they would see an Aborigine as solely a no-good-untrustworthy person. They had another factor that weighed in that wanted to believe that Aborigines were good, their conscience, which determined the stereotype that some Aborigines were still good. So then comes the day when the family loses their precious belongings, they might have just forgotten where they last put the belongings and thought they lost it but instead, they would choose the belief that the Aborigine did it. Why not? It's simpler and more effective. They also could prove that their current stereotypes of Aborigines were true, that Aborigines were poor and not to be trusted of. Thus, this would bring satisfaction to themselves that their generalizations were correct. The true facts that the family believed in would override their conscience. It would be more easier to acknowledge their stereotype on Aborigines being untrustworthy as they had "witnessed" an event. Their friends, family, and neighbors would definitely support their standings, as most of them had probably witnessed an Aborigine stealing or doing an action that the community thought of as intolerable. Towards the end, as the family witnessed more disastrous events happen, they regarded it as the doing of the Aborigine. Why would they think their "precious children" could trash the house? Their conscience was fully ignored on it's own stereotypes while the real-world went into effect, the world of peer pressure.
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Guinevere | Date: Tuesday, 2009-07-21, 9:41 PM | Message # 7 |
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| To be honest, Patrick, I didn't see much disagreement there. >> You were just clarifying my position even more. BUT on the topic of "stereotyping" and "what are races", I am aware that there is no biological thing as race. There is no gene that says "you're caucasian". That is a fact. Races scientifically don't exist. However, humans have created what they believe to be races and now categorize people based off of these simple characteristics. As much as I would love to simply say races doesn't exist, we have to acknowledge that they do because we make them. Races, at the heart and center of their creation, are stereotypes or generalizations. If you have dark skin and you were born in Australia, you MUST be an Aborigine and if you say you're not, no one will believe you because you fit their basic qualifications. Hence why my argument was that stereotypes are the most dangerous and biggest social issue between humans. Racism is not, and never will be, exclusively from white people. The speaker of the story (which is a female, by the way.. I could make a large argument about feminism and why you assumed the speaker was male .. but I won't. XP) is potentially racist themselves, however she is the victim of the story and the question was whether or not the family racially attacked her or not. So her views aren't in question. P.S. I just want to say, Remo .. I'm not surprised you defended the family. ;P
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Patrick | Date: Tuesday, 2009-07-21, 11:56 PM | Message # 8 |
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| Nuuuuuuuuh, the stereotypes were there throughout.
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Guinevere | Date: Wednesday, 2009-07-22, 0:42 AM | Message # 9 |
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| Oh of course. XP But something changed and enforced the stereotyped in their minds.
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Patrick | Date: Wednesday, 2009-07-22, 1:03 AM | Message # 10 |
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| I guess... we're on the same page.
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Genesion | Date: Wednesday, 2009-07-22, 1:59 AM | Message # 11 |
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| aw sam... i so wish you were online when i gave remo the whole break-down of the situation in my head... and a link to a previous write-up i had written about a similar issue... ah well, too tired to write it all here... so catch you on vent...
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Alteffyou | Date: Saturday, 2009-07-25, 0:27 AM | Message # 12 |
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| Racism is simply a form of stereotyping. Stereotyping occurs when one says: because of my past experiences with people from your group, as well as things I have heard about people from your group, I am forming a firm opinion about you. Racism is simply one form of that attitude, in which “people from your group”. To read more click here
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Guinevere | Date: Saturday, 2009-07-25, 8:02 PM | Message # 13 |
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| I would rather enjoy you making the argument yourself, rather than copying someone else's and linking it. >> That's just lazy.
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