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AlteffyouDate: Monday, 2009-08-24, 5:00 AM | Message # 1
Lieutenant colonel
Group: Guild Leader
Messages: 141
Status: Offline
Ok so I hear things aren't going as well as I hoped it had. I was approached from Sicarii and Nelay on msn about afew standing issues players need to be aware of. Athena is a reform of the old Minerva guild, together we did amazing things defeating bosses with the less then the required players and the best part about what we did was we had NO assistance from any donators. I relise we had Harvest sometimes but he wasn't on half the time we accomplished some of our goals. I remember us downing God with only 16 players and we had only 3 deaths on the pull only.

We can be well organised players if you listen to the raid leader who should be a fair standing rank in the guild. I have taught some select players leadership skills to make guild raids more exciting and enjoyable. Loot didn't concern us back then because we he a set loot system that 'never' changed. We had a recruitment system that was standing to inform players on what type of person this individual was and what they thought they could offer our raids.

I had a goal on world of chris to defeat both Eredar Twins at the same time. I know we had 3 attempts together but he lacked a good enough tank and we had difficulty with healers because I wasn't able to get on my warrior to heal so I was forced to stay on my Shaman (Malulani).

I'd love to come back to world of chris anyday but for now my life is tied with my school work and I'm unable to push it aside to play world of chris because I'm trying to finish this so I'm able to leave and start my career.

I'm sorry to those that I ruined things. I do relise now I was the reason most of our Core Raiders stayed and played the game but now I'm gone almost everyone we know is gone. I'm sorry really, I didn't want to leave but I had absolutely no choice. I've even had no time to catch up with friends as you may notice this is the first time I've been on the forums in along time.

If you're looking for words of advice there's only afew things I'm able to point out.

1) Join guild raids even if you're in a good pug. Every player adds a certain amount of DPS(Damage per second) to the raid and when you loot at recount's RDPSM(Raid damage per second meter) you will see everything come together. At times we had 52k raid DPS which is absolutely amazing considering most guilds put out 30-40K.

2) Athena is a PvE(Player vs environment) based guild so PvE is always expected to come first. I know it can become boring at times when the guild does constant runs of the same boring as raid instance but welcome to world of chris. Expect poorly scripted and unsupported scripts.

3) Take every guild raid seriously. If it is a well organised raid it is a fun sucessful raid so put everything you've got and flask/food buff your character up and do everything you've got.

4) Take verbal critism as a way indicating how to improve yourself. I sometimes get critism on retail world of warcraft when I used to play and I'd always ask the raid leader "Ok sir how do you think I could improve myself". I have a very good understanding of my character but you can't know everything so always be open to outside opinions.

That's all from me and I hope this can help get things rolling again.

-Exe happy


 
VampuricDate: Monday, 2009-08-24, 5:25 AM | Message # 2
Evil Title
Group: Guild Leader
Messages: 111
Status: Offline
Things arnt all that bad, We just have good and bad days. Most days When im on i see at least a guild raid, Even if its black temple or something Lower. I think our biggest problems Are To many Alts. Everyone Wants to Gear up Different Classes and not many people Sticking To raiding With just there Main(Best) Class. The One The Joined With. There Is an Exception of course. Some Of our Officers Do Only Raid With there main's Just mainly Cause there class Is needed The Most. Thing's Do need to change abit If we Are to be known as the guild that can raid anything, Successfully. I know with u not being on Alot of the old Minerva players have left,That may be looked apon as a bad thing But There is always People to take there place. I also have noticed When We do have the numbers to do a proper raid Alot of people on at the time are using ug-alts. Thats not going to help. Something I plan On Doing Now, I know i use alts to . But my main as its as geared as i can Get it Without doing swp another million times, Is to only Use it to raid G raids. This Way i believe Will help . At least On the dps Side as it is geared. If Everyone Else Picked a raiding Char Then The gear issue Shouldn't Be a problem, It would Just be a numbers game. Something Else We used to do back in the day on retail and im sure they Still Do it, Is have Specific raiding times. If You couldn't make That Raiding time each week The guild leader would norm ask u to choose a different Guild, one more suited to your raid times. This would insure a good raid Turnout. Atm Its a shambles how we choose when to raid, Like Somebody in guild shouts hey can we do a guild raid, We think about it, Look at how many on and decide what to do. Lets Face It We can do a 10man illi anyday with our main members, But Not many people want to do bt. Even to help out the guild So It gets frustrating. Ive Seen times when we have 20 on, Enough to do a we raid or swp But People Just wont join.

Anyways I tend To have no Structure When i type i just say whats on my mind as it flows out. I hope My point Gets across and im sorry to anyone that reads My thoughts as there abit like me, All over the place.


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Vamped (druid,healing)
Sutekh (preist)
 
MulgaDate: Tuesday, 2009-08-25, 0:20 AM | Message # 3
Sergeant
Group: Core Raider
Messages: 20
Status: Offline
Our guild is not bad, we are doing Guild runs, but sometimes there is just like 6 ppl online. Than it is like impossible to do guild runs. Now that Haasan is in the collage, I’m doing my best, but GMs aren’t cooperating. Now that Mulgawrath (my main char) got banned, I’m trying to get some items for me, but I’m still doing Guild Runs. We just need more time and more ppl online. Then we will get enough ppl to do Guild Runs to BT, Swp and hopefully WE :P . Let’s keep doing Guild runs and we will reach our goals.

 
zangetsuxDate: Tuesday, 2009-08-25, 8:31 AM | Message # 4
Private
Group: Officer
Messages: 18
Status: Offline
I'm a donor does that mean i dont count in this QQ?


 
AlteffyouDate: Tuesday, 2009-08-25, 11:09 AM | Message # 5
Lieutenant colonel
Group: Guild Leader
Messages: 141
Status: Offline
Donor or not donor we are play or in this case you all play on the same server and you're comment in this thread is highly appreciated. I don't know if you all relise the immaturity of the GM's (Game Master) are on world of chris so it is a wise idea not to sociat with them at all. I know it can be hard but for the best of things if you stay quiet you stay off the radar.

 
RegretDate: Wednesday, 2009-08-26, 6:52 AM | Message # 6
Taco Lover
Group: Officer
Messages: 30
Status: Offline
Havent been on much, still working on my Nova. Bout oh 3 more months biggrin
 
AlteffyouDate: Wednesday, 2009-08-26, 10:01 AM | Message # 7
Lieutenant colonel
Group: Guild Leader
Messages: 141
Status: Offline
We need more people to read this thread. It can be very helpful to players to know the basic dynamics on what is expected out of a member of Athena. At the end of the day I no longer play world of chris at this moment but I cannot empathise how fun it can be to take a 25 man raid like Black Temple and down it all in 1 hour 30 mins. Make the MOTD to check this thread.

-Exe


 
zangetsuxDate: Wednesday, 2009-08-26, 10:17 AM | Message # 8
Private
Group: Officer
Messages: 18
Status: Offline
lol idk any of these gms all the ones i know left to do somethin else lol so i dont really talk to anyof them lol anmd WTB group change im a raid leader ffs :P




Message edited by zangetsux - Wednesday, 2009-08-26, 10:17 AM
 
VampuricDate: Thursday, 2009-08-27, 8:07 AM | Message # 9
Evil Title
Group: Guild Leader
Messages: 111
Status: Offline
Sounds like a plan, We tried yesterday. We had 20 online . Though i waited for some members to finish za g run first but By the time we got the raid Up we only had 14, So we did essence , council and illidian as myself haasan and nystie had to leave

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Quote (Alteffyou)
Donor or not donor we are play or in this case you all play on the same server and you're comment in this thread is highly appreciated. I don't know if you all relise the immaturity of the GM's (Game Master) are on world of chris so it is a wise idea not to sociat with them at all. I know it can be hard but for the best of things if you stay quiet you stay off the radar.

Agreed. So far Ive met a few of them and Dislike most of them. The only one i haven't had problems with is probably overpowdered


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Vamped (druid,healing)
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